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Foggy Dew + TFC game

Saturday, March 26th, 2011 at 11:59 pm

Went to a bar, Foggy Dew, last night with my friends. Had some good chatting, some interesting conversations.

Had a Stella, a Black Velvet (a beer cocktail made from stout beer, often Guinness, and white, sparkling wine, traditionally champagne), and a 1L stein of Hacker Pschorr. Afterwards, I had a sparkling wine…so that’s about 4-5 drinks. Less than Bier Market night but I find my tolerance is much worse when I’m at bars or alone than when I’m at a club. I think that’s always been the case…I’m much better with alcohol when I’m on the dance floor than when it’s quiet and I’m sitting still…

We had some interesting discussions last night, my friends and I. Not quite the deep talk I wanted but some of the conversations were eye openers. It started off with one of my friends asking if it was okay to hit on a girl while she has a boyfriend. Out of the 6 guys there yesterday night, 2 of them had personal experience not only being interested in taken girls (which happens quite frequently I’m sure) but succeeding in breaking up the relationships. Well…one was successful, one was….ultimately successful, after a long, long period of time. Note that I call it “successful” in the sense that my friends had accomplished the goal they set out to do: replace the girl’s existing boyfriend. My friend who was asking the question also asked “wouldn’t you feel guilty if you broke them up?”. While I can see his reasoning, I imagine that the primary goal would be to break the couple up and while you may feel guilty, you wouldn’t feel guilty enough that it would prevent you from doing it. I mean, if I were to break a couple up…and I can think of an instance where I almost did, I either wouldn’t do it, or would do it and wouldn’t feel guilty. I mean, in the situation specific to me, the girl would fight with her boyfriend, break up and get back together repeatedly….she was a great girl and I, despite not knowing anything about the guy, deemed him unworthy of her and felt she could do better….(…with me).

Side story on that…I would talk to his girl a lot, see her for lunch during my co-op term (we worked at different places, but they were right across the street from each other). Anyways, we would trade emails back and forth…and eventually one day, her boyfriend read her emails (not cool)…and then got all jealous and they fought and almost broke up. Some more stuff happened…in the end, it would be her deciding, for the sake of her relationship, that my part in her life would be done. Eventually, the two of us continued to be friends and after the relationship I had worked to destroy…eventually fell apart, as I knew it would. And I would talk to her after and she would tell me how happy she was that she wasn’t with that guy anymore. Anyways, I must say that I was probably a really big factor of why they broke up. And I don’t feel the slightest bit guilty. She’s happily married now, I talk to her like, once a year…but she’s doing well.

Anyways, back to the point…if someone were interested in a taken girl, the intention of doing an improper, but fair deed exists. “All’s fair in love and war”. But the intention is understood, regardless of how guilty you may feel, if you actively pursue this intention, then you are indeed committing a foul act.

I also pointed out that while someone might be interested in a girl, it is completely up to the girl to determine what happens. She could ignore the person infatuated with her and stay loyal to her boyfriend, she could play around with both and determine who to be with, or she could leave her boyfriend for the new guy. In scenario two and three (which occurred with my two friends), while successfully “winning” the girl, I noted that immediately after she has been “won”, she depreciates in value. This is because her trust is no longer spotless and her loyalty is in question for all subsequent relationships.

Anyways…both those relationships, in which my friends broke couples up, didn’t last. 1 year and 3 years. However, one of my other friend’s relationship in which he did that is still going strong at 2 years…

Hm, I just noticed that in all 3 of these situations, let’s say 4 including my own, it was the guy that went after the taken girl. Do girls ever go after taken guys? I would assume it’s less likely based on personal statistics. Guys are more…I dunno, I think in at least 3 of these cases, the guy just didn’t care about the boyfriend of the girl they were interested in. The girl is the only focus, the only goal, the only prize. Not that women are objects!. Just kidding, they totally are. And moments after reading this, all my female readers kick me in the balls.

Anyways.

Got a bit side tracked. Let’s see…after going to the bar, we went to my friend’s loft. I was the last one to leave, staying until just after midnight…I cabbed home, close to puking…but I was okay…I guess. I immediately crawled into bed, I wasn’t in the mood for drunken blogging or even staying awake a moment longer. My head was pounding and I definitely could have puked if I tried. But I was resisting. The point of yesterday night, in my eyes, was actually to drink so much that I’d puke. When I was at my friend’s place, telling them I’d never puked before, like 3 or 4 of them shot up with wide eyes in disbelief. I felt…like a drunken puke virgin. How embarrassing. Anyways…it wouldn’t be fun if you TRIED to puke because that’d be too easy. No, the next time I want to drunken puke, I’ll have to earn it. So I crawled into bed…the alcoholic effects yesterday night were some I haven’t had in a while and don’t usually get anymore. See, when I drink, I get hot. Like, I get red, my skin gets warm. VERY warm. It’s somewhat like a fever, in which my skin is hot but the feeling I have is cold. Very cold. So I was shivering, with double blankets as I slept last night…I fell asleep immediately but woke up very often to…use the restroom. I had already woken up 3 times in the middle of the night so when I woke up the 4th, I looked at the time…it was 4:30am. “That’s it?” I thought. Anyways, I woke up again at 6….this time drinking quite a bit of water before I went back to sleep. The shivers were almost gone but my head was pounding. Woke up again at 8:30…and 9:10…but then slept well, headacheless til 11:30am, when I woke up to get ready for the TFC game. I was really worried that I’d be too hung over or sick or messed up to go to the game. I would hate to bail 2.5 hours before it started.

Eventually, I got myself ready. While I didn’t drink during the game (I was still trying to sober up a bit), I had 1 foot long hot dog, and 1 foot long smoked chili hot dog (cheese, sour cream, and chili). My co-workers (as I got the TFC tickets through work) shouted that “Warren likes to eat big wieners!” as we were sitting around, in the spectators. I didn’t deny it, as I totally inhaled the hot dog. It was very good. And juicy. I just wrote all that to give my co-worker, who reads this blog, a laugh :)


A video of how close my seats were


I took some pictures, but they turned out really weird/ugly. Maybe it was the sun that was out? It’s like the soccer game from a radioactive, apocalyptic future!

Anyways…off to try to do something productive.

6 Responses to “Foggy Dew + TFC game”

  1. Karol says:

    Obviously you don’t read many shojos. I can list PLENTY where a girl is with a guy, then another girl decides she wants him. Fushigi Yugi and Peach Girl are the first two that come to mind. I’ve been in a pretty similar situation before… kind of. When it’s on the girls side it’s much more… behind your back and a lot of scheming. Kind of like in Fushigi Yugi/Peach Girl now that I think about it…

    Anyways when I read this I laughed “No, the next time I want to drunken puke, I’ll have to earn it.” When that time comes you’ll be taking back all of this :p

  2. warrenshea says:

    Actually, I’ve watched the Peach Girl anime…and actually thought about it when I was trying to think of a guy that replaced a girl’s boyfriend (Kairi replacing Toji). I don’t remember the details (I saw it over 5 years ago) but I remember it not quite happening in an intentional, scheming way. I remember Toji being stupid for not talking to Momo about something…and that my “relationship problems can be easily avoided with better communication” saying seeming to hold true. It’s even held true in Sky’s Content…problems can generally be avoided with communication. But again, where’s the drama in that?

    Sorry, kinda side tracked as you brought Peach Girl up for a girl replacing a boy’s girlfriend, which didn’t come to mind. And while you can list PLENTY….you’re referring to Shojos…which are not real life examples. I can’t use that as practical instances…because the purpose of those IS drama, so they’re intentionally created that way. (and I’m well aware that what I just said makes my first paragraph moot).

    Oh oh, i just thought of one: Angelina Jolie replacing Jennifer Aniston’s place with Brad Pitt.

  3. Karol says:

    If you want I can list my kind of situation and you’ll see it can get JUST AS dramatic. And actually in Peach Girl it was actually Momo’s friend Sae that went around and spreaded rumours. Not to mention purposely put herself into situations with the guy and made Momo to be the ‘bad’ or ‘mean’ one.

    In Fushigi Yugi, the girl literally erased the guy’s memories of the girlfriend JUST so she can have him. Same thing happened in Meru Puri: Marchen Prince, lol.

    And yeah, in SC communication was a big problem, but you’re forgetting the Uncle was the one that convinced Shikamaru to stay away. That sort of comes in later… :o

  4. Salanth says:

    Tori Spelling and Dean McDermott?
    Julia Roberts and her husband?
    Camilla and Prince Charles?

  5. warrenshea says:

    @Karol –
    Hah, maybe you can tell me about your dramatic situation some time, I’d love to hear it. I guess I was only talking to guys that night, at the bar, so I never got a girl’s opinion or stories….I would find it interesting to see how they think. I’m not a girl (I don’t even know if I had to write that), but I can’t say I would know how a girl would think. I imagine that the “a lot of scheming” might be gender unspecific as I would have said that was something I’d have done in the past. Hm, maybe I am a girl.

    RE: Peach Girl: Toji was listening to Sae and Sae’s lies when he could have just as easily talked to Momo, his girlfriend, to figure out the truth. That idiot. That was the problem I had…it didn’t seem realistic. I remember some kind of blackmail involved….but still….

    RE: Fushigi Yugi + Meru Puri – THAT sounds VERY…..unrealistic :)

  6. GS says:

    I did laugh. You great big juicy wiener eater!

    The Black Velvet you had was actually Cider and Guiness not Sparkling Wine. Commonly known as a “poor man’s black velvet” but actually the standard in Canada. The Foggy Dew makes thiers with Pear cider called Sir Perry.

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